Curse

zling · Apr 21, 2008, 09:01 PM // 21:01

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

He's speccing hard into smiting here.

Signet of Removal will do the trick. All I was saying is that it's bad to use your elite for e-management, especially when the elite won't be used properly.

I'm sorry but in the ops current build the only e-management is the elite. take it out and the hero will spam his skills until his energy runs dry and than he's useless. yes signet of removal may work as it's a signet but meh, your hero should do more than spam signet of removal

Super Igor · Apr 21, 2008, 09:04 PM // 21:04

true

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Snow Bunny · Apr 21, 2008, 09:08 PM // 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by zling

I'm sorry but in the ops current build the only e-management is the elite. take it out and the hero will spam his skills until his energy runs dry and than he's useless. yes signet of removal may work as it's a signet but meh, your hero should do more than spam signet of removal

It's my whole point - is the build getting maximum efficiency for the requirement of elite e-management?

No.

Zealot's Fire, unless you're tanking with the bloody hero, will not provide enough damage output to warrant its energy demand. We can argue about the elite but that's ignoring the greater issue here - the bar can be more efficient.

Super Igor · Apr 21, 2008, 09:11 PM // 21:11

It already has Smite Hex/Condiotion, Zealot's is there to add some more damage to these skills. Signet of Removal is not needed in my opinion but good e-management is.

Snow Bunny · Apr 21, 2008, 09:15 PM // 21:15

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

It already has Smite Hex/Condiotion, Zealot's is there to add some more damage to these skills. Signet of Removal is not needed in my opinion but good e-management is.

At your spec (10) ZF is dealing 25 fire damage a shot. You have 4 spells on your bar that target an ally, each with a recharge of 8-12. That means the damage output from ZF will be very low - it's why Searing Flames is not very good in HM but physical damage with buffs is.

Your 25 fire damage will be reduced to something quite little (let's assume by 25%, so rounding up, 19) and your hero isn't spamming skills every second to compensate for the significantly reduced damage.

Super Igor · Apr 21, 2008, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Yeah, on some targets ZF's damage is quite minor.

On other hand when this hero uses, say, Smite Hex or Condition on a character mobs do scatter from that character so it can be useefull to repell mobs from backline. ;\

Antithesis · Apr 22, 2008, 12:17 AM // 00:17

Looks strangely familiar, not so random afterall. Swap the primaries, toss in a couple of Resto's, lose some e-management (Heroes are bad m'kay) and add a crap AoE attack and hey presto!...Igor's "invented" a new build.

Both are weak builds, i wouldn't bother.

Stormlord Alex · Apr 22, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Drop Zealot's Fire for [[castigation signet], then take a useful utility elite - [[empathic removal] or [[signet of removal] come to mind. You can argue till you're blue in the face, but it won't make the pitiable damage from ZF worth the energy drain and skill slot.

Mickey · Apr 22, 2008, 02:18 AM // 02:18

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Originally Posted by Antithesis

Looks strangely familiar, not so random afterall. Swap the primaries, toss in a couple of Resto's, lose some e-management (Heroes are bad m'kay) and add a crap AoE attack and hey presto!...Igor's "invented" a new build.

Both are weak builds, i wouldn't bother.

Huh. No wai.

This build is almost identical to this:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10279257

Except on a rit rather than a monk.

Antithesis · Apr 22, 2008, 02:46 AM // 02:46

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Originally Posted by Mickey

Huh. No wai.

This build is almost identical to this:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10279257

Except on a rit rather than a monk.

Yeah, that too

Super Igor · Apr 22, 2008, 03:54 PM // 15:54

These are monks, mine is a rit, read carefully.

The builds you linked to are not random either then, just taken from teh PvX, anyhow, I was inspired by Rt/N Phisical Support build when making this. I know its kinda weak, just an attempt to create a Smite/Chan Rit build.

P.S. Alex, i wasnt arguing in this post, just whant to see what you guys will tell.

~Super Igor

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Mickey · Apr 23, 2008, 12:49 AM // 00:49

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

These are monks, mine is a rit, read carefully.

The builds you linked to are not random either then, just taken from teh PvX, anyhow, I was inspired by Rt/N Phisical Support build when making this. I know its kinda weak, just an attempt to create a Smite/Chan Rit build.

P.S. Alex, i wasnt arguing in this post, just whant to see what you guys will tell.

~Super Igor

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Mines not from PvX, read closely when you scourge that site. Yours it a Rit, with the exact same skills, except Zealots Fire, while mine is a monk. I wouldn't say this is random. Plus, the hero sucks, I totally gave up on it for a N/Rt healer with just Splinter.

Super Igor · Apr 23, 2008, 12:55 AM // 00:55

I nearly always use Rt/N, I like the powerful AR/SW and some nec hexes and ench removal aswell. I care little about what is your build and were it comes from neither I see how is it connected tothis build here.

As I already said, this was just a random idea to add some minor AoE for me while filling in my book as an Ursan and to see how heroes behave with the DZ hex, thats it, smiting still remains a weak PvE att.

~Super Igor

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